If Telangana in Andhra Pradesh can be carved as a new state, why not statehood for Kodagu? It is no secret that successive state governments have ignored our district for 50 years now. Pathetic infrastructure and no vision to develop Kodagu as well.
Participate in the discussion with meaningful thoughts. It can be a healthy discussion between people for it and those against statehood for Kodagu. We can make our case heard in our own sweet way.
Participate in the discussion with meaningful thoughts. It can be a healthy discussion between people for it and those against statehood for Kodagu. We can make our case heard in our own sweet way.
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Creating smaller states ad infinitum will lead to every community wanting their own state:
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/ftn-state-of-india-everyone-wants-a-share-of-pie/106883-37.html
Briefly, this is my take on this:
Once we lose the sense of being an Indian first and then formulating the governance of the land for the betterment of India and Indians, there is no end to divisive feelings and actions.
May be instead of linguistic states, we should abolish the concept of States and just have a Federation of independently governed Districts. But again, will that satisfy every group? It will not.
As an example, if Kodagu becomes a separately governed entity, will there be forces fighting for the special interests of Nalknad versus Kadiyathnad, etc.? I say yes, certainly. Then what about agreements to share waters from various rivers, streams, etc,.? What about resolving boundary disputes between these various regions? The list can go on and on. Let me not even get into the possible conflicts for the self-interests of various groups within the land, Kodavas, Gowdas, Yeravas, Kurubas, etc. This is just an example in one place, Kodagu. Imagine such things happening all around the country. Every citizen should have to be an expert in conflict resoulution!!
As far as I am concerned, I am proud to be of an Indian heritage. I am equally proud to be a Kodava and more than everything I am proud to be a good human being wherever I live. It is best to be a good citizen and find ways to unite rather than to divide people. In unity we will have all around strength.
Jai Kodagu, Jai Bharath, Jai Jagath!!
Also, before somebody would comment on my earlier message and ask how will that help the pathetic infrastructure in Kodagu due to successive neglect from our State government for the last 50 years?
Ours is a democratic system and we are the ones who elect our representatives. Unfortunately, many a times, these representatives are either themselves corrupt, or are more beholden to their "Party" manifesto rather than a "Kodagu" manifesto. May be it's time to start an independent minded group with the interests of Kodagu as its primary goal and elect a Representative from that group. Some proactive pressure from such a group, including various forms of non-violent tactics, may encourage or even force the government to take some action. I think for too long we have allowed ourselves to be divided. That has made it easy for others to rule us according to their whims.
Codavas constitute less than 20% of the population of the district. The majority is constituted by Gowdas and Keralites. With this demographic pattern I cannot understand what prompts the Codavas to ask for a seperate state.
If the Codavas want to develop their langauge and culture, they should start this in their own homes. Having a seperate state or "autonomous region" will not help propogate their langauge and culture.
I have read all the Resons why we dont need it but have you thought why we need it,we need it because the retain the 20%population if not more of gowdas and keralites will venture,immigrant population will increse it has happened from 16th century and it will still increse what is 20% now i can say will reduce to 0% in no time,also i agree asking for a state has no meaning but the an autnomonous kodava land is important to safegurd the 20% of population and there land the question in kodag is not only development but also how to safegurd the reduceing population and very existence of natives of the land,stat will definately not solve the problem but a autonomous kodava land where 75% of the landholdings are still with the 20%population,the question is how this 75% of land can be protected with the natives and not go to outsiders because if you own your land you own your culture,tradition and the place,so a Codava Autnomous Region is the only answer for this,by doing this we are not spliting karnataka but will still be with the current state but the only diffrence is the reporting with be to the governer and central government centen amendments need to be done with regard to the same, by stateing of codava Autonomous Region i am not putting down other communities in Kodava Land we will definately accommodate other communities with in the clause of Codava Autonomous Region,and also the autonomous region will be limited to 44 traditional Naads of Kodag by this even those communities who have a major land holdings in other parts of Kodagu for Ex lIKE aRA ASHA/kODAGU Gowdas even there centiments towords the land are not hurt,Hence it is important to carve out a seperate codava Autonomous Region,to safegurd the 20%Population left over,to safegurd the Intrests of the natives of that region(44nadds)and also the rich tradition and culture of the region and also with limited developments where required by not spoiling the eco system,and thats what the fight for autonomous region is going on at this stage bu C.N.C
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In response to TK :
1. How do you plan to retain and sustain the 20% Kodava population in Kodagu? Lock them up and throw the keys and not let them leave?
2. What if some of the Kodavas want to sell their land? Will CNC pay them the market value and help other Kodavas to buy the land and keep the land among Kodavas only?
3. Are the majority of Kodavas agree that the spelling of "Kodagu" to be changed to "Codagu" and "Kodavas" to "Codavas"? Who made the decision to change the name of "Kodagu" to "Kodag"? Are such decisions taken unilaterally by certain individuals or groups? How does that fit in a democratic society such as ours?
4. If CNC is a public, non-profit organization, why not have a link on their web site informing how much money they collect, from whom, how they spend that money, and more importantly, publish annual audit statements of their accounts from a reputed accounting firm? That will help increase the credibility of that organization. Also it would help if all the names of the Board of Directors, if any, of that organization is also published. As it is now, it looks like it is run by one individual without any accountability to the majority people of Kodagu for which it seems to exist.
5. If the politicians have neglected the development of Kodagu, why are the people of Kodagu continue to elect "do-nothing" representatives? After suffering for so many years, if Kodavas and other citizens of Kodagu cannot unite to elect good representatives, and only put the blame on others, what makes you think the same sort of blame game will not continue even if another system is put in place?
1. I fully endorse the views of "An ordinary Kodava".
2. TK, you give me the impression that the demand for statehood is a "real estate" issue with nothing to do with culture and traditions. Are you going to prevent Codavas from selling their proterty? Are Codavas currently being forced to sell their property to non-Codavas?
3. Regarding the development of Coorg.....There have been numerous Codava MLA's and ministers. MC Nanniah, MM Nanniah etc. Nothing has changed during their tenure. How do you expect things to change under NU Nachappa and Co?
4. I agree with "An ordinary Kodava" regarding the finances of CNC. Is NU Nachappa making a financial killing in the guise of the statehood demand??
5. Do a majority of the Codavas (20% of the population of Coorg)support the demand for a seperate state?? Many educated and respectable Codavas whom I have spoken to do not agree and are very suspicious of the motives of shady charecters like NU Nachappan and Co.
@ AOK :
Democracy in full flow :) - K or C - Kodag or Kodagu .
At this point CNC seems lot better than the current politicians.
Administration should be handed over to the people of kodagu.
Reply to "CPN said"
1. Kodagu currently has democratically elected representatives. How will the new representatives (under CNC and new state) be any different?
2. What makes you think that CNC will be better than the current politicians?? CNC appears to have ulterior motives.
3. The economy of Coorg depends on a single commodity. Hence is a seperate Coorg an economically viable option? Market fluctuations, climatic changes, drought and labour shortages are likely to have a negative effect on coffee plantations.
@TIMTAM
1. I seek administration to be provided to people from kodagu.
2. Give them a chance - atleast they dont have to go to Delhi for any approval [ unlike Congress/ BJP].
3. I seek admin only - this will have far more accountability. an officer from Kodagu cannot run away, unlike an officer from bijapur.
this is my view , rather than creating a separate state try to improve or preserve what we have in our hand now , because seperation can lead to some other problems ,after the seperation it will create problems like dicremenation of others like gowdas, vokkaligas, and others. instead of this if we are concerned about our land try to preserve whats is our culture and tradition and more importantly the land , try to enter politics and do good and improve it , if u have power u can do anything but the person who wanna enter should have a very strong heart and mind because politics is nasty , u change it like anything if u enter politics think who can do this, kodagu can be made one of the best in india if not in world, everything is possible
first indian then kodava.
I agree. Instead of creating a seperate state or region, we need educated and self-less people in politics. Only then can Coorg improve. The current lot have not done anything except making promises during election time. I think we should throw the whole lot out during the next election and vote for people who can make a difference.
The recent MLC elections saw T John being elected.......a liquor baron and industrialist. HAs he done anything for Coorg when he was a minister and do you think he will done anything for the district in the future?
As I see it……the question is “How to improve infrastructure, administration, conservation & facilities in Codagu”. However, the discussion is getting overshadowed by politicians, their deeds. Likewise the argument about shortage of labor etc…does not hold much water.
I personally cannot believe that the current set up can honestly work for the betterment of Codagu or Codava. I speak from experience
I see a kind of nervousness or shyness in some Codavas to overtly ask for statehood which is a genuine demand. The question of protecting ones culture and land should be spoken loud and clear without scope for misunderstanding. Coorgs are the dominant community in Codagu and we want to preserve our culture and improve Codagu. Historically, this stance is the foundation for creation of nations and states. By working within the options available under the constitution of India, no one becomes less patriotic.
The CNC…..I have not met Mr.Nachappa personally, therefore I refrain from commenting or supporting him. However, I personally know some people who have been working with him example Kalyanda Prakash, he is good person with genuine interest to save and improve Codagu. Also he is sound coffee planter and I would not buy the allegation of amassing money through CNC.
In the current environment I only see CNC as the true representatives of Codavas and a dedicated organization which can bring about the change.
Comment above completely ignores other communities .. So my vote is for NO STATEHOOD FOR KODAGU. U consider us so we will think about joining, u ignore us, we ignore u .. MESSAGE is straight n clear.
LIVE n LEARN to LET LIVE
I recommend a movie for u guys 'AMERICAN HISTORY'.. please watch it.. may be TALIBAN KODAVAs learn a lesson out of that..
I do not see a point in discussing about considering and someone thinking to join...after being considered!!
Your reference to American history allows me to fathom your thoughts about Codvas.
We have read and learnt from the American history. Codava state will become a reality sooner or later, the point is when will you join the movement.
U dont need read and learn about AMERICAN HISTORY, just watch a movie called American History X ( 1998).. check this link
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120586/
and the answer is whether you consider or not,we(non Kodavas) will never ever join the movement like some sensible Kodavas are doing and do not waste our time and energy designing our own unfateful future in Kodava state while we watch CNC becoming cash rich.
Tell you what !! if n.u.nachappa and his men (?? no second line leaders??)were serious they would have been part of this discussions.. y dont bring him see what he has to say..
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