BANGALORE: A group of Kodavas representing organisations like ‘Kodavame’ and ‘Nellakki’ yesterday disrupted a wedding at Kodava Samaj Bangalore. They warned they will not allow any kind of inter-caste marriages happening as per the Kodava tradition.
A group of men and women thronged the wedding hall and stopped the traditional rituals being carried out. The bridegroom belonged to the Mukkatira family while the bride belonged to a different caste.
The protestors said that they will not object the marriage, but will not allow it to be solemised as per the Kodava tradition. They also stopped the ‘Kodava valaga’ from being played and other rituals like ‘Ganga Pooja’. The bride and groom were made to sit inside a room, instead of the ‘mantap’ to receive blessings. (Source: Shakthi)
Attention readers: If you have photos / videos or more details of the above incident, please mail it to cariz123@gmail.com. We will post it on the blog.
Also read: Do you agree with ‘Nanga Kodava’?
A group of men and women thronged the wedding hall and stopped the traditional rituals being carried out. The bridegroom belonged to the Mukkatira family while the bride belonged to a different caste.
The protestors said that they will not object the marriage, but will not allow it to be solemised as per the Kodava tradition. They also stopped the ‘Kodava valaga’ from being played and other rituals like ‘Ganga Pooja’. The bride and groom were made to sit inside a room, instead of the ‘mantap’ to receive blessings. (Source: Shakthi)
Attention readers: If you have photos / videos or more details of the above incident, please mail it to cariz123@gmail.com. We will post it on the blog.
Also read: Do you agree with ‘Nanga Kodava’?
76 comments:
Do something good to the community than interfering with one’s personal affairs, marriage is by choice and to celebrate it anyway is also a choice under Indian the constitution. Looks like the clowns are at it again. Please find something better to do.
u guys slump to a higher low(pardon the oxymoron) day by day.i'm just glad some things were never real and will never be real.i would die rather than watch some bunch of pussies do something like this to my family.
i hope your pride gave its worth.kudos to you jokers,
Hello,Every one here state not to Interfeir,then who is gonn a stop this kind of activities,our people should first realise that we are a small community and a diffrent race as mentioned by the constution of India,if this mixture happens there will be no fine kodavas remaining and thats what the other communities want,i think we need to think before we act think that in small community like our's one Boy going out means one girl going and one girl going out means one boy going out where will it end and ultimately whats gonna happen to proud,finest race in India Kodavas,few more like kodava reddys,kodava Gowdas,KodavaLingyats,Kodava Brhamins,Kodava shettys,Koadava Kammas,Kodava Punjabi,Kodava Sikhs,Kodava Marvadi etc,cery Nice What about Kodavas =0
The end of the era Chrs guys
SO PLEASE THINK BEFORE YOU ACT.IF WE DONT ACT NOW WE CANNOT THINK LATER.
You IDIOTS !! u Guyz Saving The Putity of Race By getting People married.???
If you have to Do Good to The Commubity, then Do Something usefull. You cannot Forcefully ask anybody to marry Someone. Its Again personal choice. How Would you like your partner getting married to a person just because he or she is scared of being disowned by the Race and have an extra marital affair. Justified ??
You Need to Do Something To Do Kodavas Proud. Not Ruin Someones Life. Its High Time a Case to be Files against organisations like ‘Kodavame’ and ‘Nellakki’ and all members involved in it for Defamation
Why does these incidents happen only at Bangalore Kodava Samaj and not elsewhere in Mysore, Mangalore, Coorg, etc?.... I think there are a few disgruntled elements in the committee of the Bangalore KS who are using these cheap tricks to send their message across to their rivals. All said and done, a police complaint would be the apt tool to scare these jokers whey they disrupt a wedding…Next time, if they venture into the venue, some goondas should be hired to thrash these volunteers of Kodavame and Nellaki. They should not come near Vasanthnagar in their lifetime again.
I would have been proud if these organizations sat near panchavalli holding placards for better roads.... Or adopted a poor coorg child to provide education...or painted or cleaned one coorg town by hand....Any kodava will remember General Kariappa or General Thimmaiah and so many kodava achievers for what they did in their lifetime...and literally Mr. Pavin for sure....and the group too....I have no words to describe
What is the fuss about marrying non Kodavas? I would like to ask these Kodavas who are talking the Taliban language to come forward and marry Kodavas girls but have been unfortunate because of circumstance. So many Kodavas girl who are not good looking or disabled or even having a minor physical flaw are rejected outrightly by Kodava men. What do these girls do? I know of many cases such as this. I know of a girl who has been rejected by atleast 30 men because she has a slight limp. So according to the Kodava Taliban is it ok for such a girl to marry outside the community because there is nobody large hearted enough? What purity of the tribe are they talking about?
We Kodavas still don’t know our origin. While some say we have Greek ancestors other even say Arab. Communities, caste have evolved over the years and there is nothing wrong in new communities coming to being. What is important is being human and contributing positively to this world. I hope in the event of an accident and a Kodava needs blood these Taliban won’t go looking for Kodava blood. Come on guys cut the crap. Let us be global citizens who will work towards humanities betterment and not be in a cocoon. Our tradition will survive if it has too.
I can name each and every comic in our community. Most of them are doing it for publicity. These morons need to be eliminated from limelight. These are individuals who are confused, have conflict of interest, they themselves within their own families have happenings which are contrary to what they preach, they do not practice what they preach. I DO NOT WANT TO BRING THEIR DIRTY LAUNDY TO THE PUBLIC. SOME OF THESE INDIVIDUALS ENTICE YOUNG WOMEN FOR THEIR ULTERIOR MOTIVES . Especially women coming from Kodagu. PLEASE WACTHOUT!!!!They stoop to the lowest levels of humanity. Elements of worship, traditions, music are all covered under the Indian constitution in the freedom of expression. These are not misused or undermined, but continued to be promoted by individuals and families in the interest of traditions, culture and not the mockery the clowns are involved with. I have seen this happening in Bangalore often.
These hooligans are more of a threat to the Kodava culture than what they say is happening to our community. I am shocked that the local Kodava Samaj administrators are allowing this to happen. Hope the Kodava Samaj will be courageous enough to excommunicate these goondas who are real poisonous to the well being of our great culture.
Godess Cauvery & Lord Igguthappa will not be happy with incidents like these.
We ought to be happy that our traditions, culture, music and rituals are continued to be practiced and promoted. These morons are group of silly people who like to tear apart our community to pecies in the name of Kodavvame. These individuals do not even practice Kodavvvame and use it loosely. I guess most dont have any positive, cordiality to consolidate our community. These little toxic farts in our community.We need to deal with it in a firm had by using self defence neext time when they interfere with a marriage. With wepons of choice to show who a real Kodava is.
We ought to be happy that our traditions, culture, music and rituals are continued to be practiced and promoted. These morons are group of silly people who like to tear apart our community to pecies in the name of Kodavvame. These individuals do not even practice Kodavvame and use it loosely. I guess most dont have any positive, cordiality to consolidate our community. These little toxic farts in our community.We need to deal with it in a firm had by using self defence neext time when they interfere with a marriage. With wepons of choice to show who a real Kodava is.
To all the Followers of this blog site who are actively participating on the inter-caste marriages discussion.
The Moderator of this blog is very keen in raising the inter-caste marriage issues each and every time without any delay, also for few days the blogs will have some comments who are supporting the Inter-cast Marriages and also some comments who are Opposing the Inter-cast marriages. Once the issue has saturated, all the comments who opposed the Inter-cast marriages will be deleted.
(I have Proof on this Mr. Joker) - A moderator should be more knowledgeable, u are the best judge to this site, unfortunately what you are doing is wrong.
Even I found it very funny, but later I got to know that the so called MODERATOR has married a Non-Kodava. Hence he supports and encourages who follows’ him and also he will delete those comments from the blog. (What a cheap Mentality)
To all those Anonymous in this community - I am reluctant to reply because you cannot be considered a KODAVA even if you are one as KODAVAS have always been bold & open to truth. We are a warrior sect & are always proud of it. A KODAVA never hides behind a bush. Why to hide your name, come on speak out loud, no one will kill you or harm you.
I am a Proud Kodava … r u one ?
Also to the comments who support Intercaste marriages - If you can understand, the protest is only against use of KODAVA customs in inter-caste weddings. Why does anyone want to wed in KODAVA custom when one has no respect to KODAVAME? What do you gain out of it? No one is stopping you from wedding out of community. It is your wish. But do not disrespect our customs. If you want to show the world that you are wedding some body, you can always do so in any other way. No one will object. When you already show your disrespect to KODAVAME by wedding out of community, why do you want KODAVA custom which has its own meaning & value (if you know).
Bariyanda Sunil Karumbiah
A Proud Kodava
kodava Loved your reply. Keep it coming :)
Bariyanda Sunil Karumbiah, Manager – Operations and Support at Epiance Software Pvt Ltd Manager in Bangalore. Works for an IT company serving global customers, but things like a frog in the well? Pity the company having such staffers.
I sincerely hope your kids, cousins, family get married to Kodavas in the days/years to come. Otherwise you might turn a mass murderer killing all of them. There was shortage of jokers in Kodava clan and now you guys are filling up the void. Continue your good work…
Well, if one dictates terms, conditions and acts as hooligans who are you? Don’t bullshit your way out now. Your groups assumptions and misguided nature is already understood by many don’t target anyone but your close-mindedness with your own perceptions, interpretations, isolationist nature. We want our community to be one. Don’t use Kodavamme loosely.
What if the moderator is married to a non-Kodava, he is a human, he is still a Kodava, and he has his personality and choices? Are you marrying for him or dictating him to marry? Who are you to make choices for him? Who are you to call yourself a proud Kodava and others or not? Who has given you any authority? I see freedom of speech in this site not control. A dialogue is better than suppression or isolation or segregation.
You’re Comment:
“To all those Anonymous in this community - I am reluctant to reply because you cannot be considered a KODAVA even if you are one as KODAVAS have always been bold & open to truth. We are a warrior sect & are always proud of it. A KODAVA never hides behind a bush. Why to hide your name, come on speak out loud, no one will kill you or harm you.”
This your public display of your IGNORACE
No one is hiding or choosing to be a coward and don’t play with words. I am glad you are feeling brave by misleading people or breaking our people apart, by disrupting our practice of customs in a wedding in the name of Kodavame. Some of you really need some introspection before you display your ignorance in public very often. However, look at your own group of people and internalize their personal family situations to see how you hide things within about customs. Please pay attention to this.
I am proud that people in our weddings are using customs from age old times, the choice to use customs are individuals elemental worship there is nothing wrong in worshipping the elements of nature .These customs have been there since Vedic times and has become an integral part of Kodava customs. It has no patent and it’s free to be used by anyone anywhere but in the land of dictators who intend to exercise control.
Mr.Sham,
Remove my professional details. Its non of u r business.
If u r a KODAVA come Face to face .. lets speak their.
You said earlier: “We are a warrior sect & are always proud of it. A KODAVA never hides behind a bush. Why to hide your name, come on speak out loud, no one will kill you or harm you.”
What are you scared of now? hehehehe
Face to face with you? Never, not even if someone pays me $5 million. I have got better job to do.
@ Anon - I dont have any issues with moderator marrying anyone , my only concern is why is he deleting the comments ?
I am a born kodava needa madhri alla, hiding behind the bush.
@ Sham - I dont have any issues, even if you get my professional details. I m not a coward like others.
Sunil, this blog been around for sometime now. Why do you show your Kodavaness only when it comes to inter-caste marriages? Where are you when general issues are discussed in this blog? You work like a bot.
Guys stop bullshiting and fighting well it comes to the identity of a person,a team,a group a sect a community a race,we r identified as seperate race due certain aspects which is not found in other communities tho others have there own identity nodoubt,but as i mentioned earler the community needs to stand united the reson is because thousends of years of wars has litrally brought down our population it might be war againist nehibours or desises,now what sword could not do to eliminate us,today these sort of unwanted things are happening,to maintain the unquieness we need to atlest serve our people by not going outside the community and help in retaining the indentity that was maintained by our four fathers and the only way we can do is if intercast is not encourages,so nobody can stop it each indvidual person in our community is eresponsible for it.Think over it LPG -LIBRAL,PRIVIATE GLOBAL CONCEPT WILL BE NICE IF IT REMAINS IN BUSINESS since if brought into small communitys like ours its matter of time for us to be one more people who will be assocating with some major communities who never lost there people in wars etc and there population has incresed over a period of time to eat away the minor race in a very nice,polite way called love which has got no barriers,Now ileave to choose your destiny.if you want to help to retain purity of kodavasm or not.
Such incidents perpetrated by some “holier than thou” thugs in the name of Kodavame reminds me of an incident which happened at my father’s wedding in 1947. He told me that he had invited his very close cousin who had settled in Bombay and who had married a lady who was not a kodavathi by birth. They had travelled all the way to Coorg for the wedding. Just before the muhurta of my father, a servant brought a letter from a prominent kodava elder of our village informing him that he was boycotting the wedding because my father’s cousin was at the wedding with his non-coorgie wife!! He also had written that if my father wanted him to attend the wedding and seek his blessings, my father’s cousin and his wife had to leave the wedding.
My father very politely refused to abide by this request and sent words to this village elder to that effect. After some years, one day my father was travelling in a bus to go to Virajpet and on the way, this elder got on the bus. The bus was quiet full and there was one empty seat next to my father and this elder was hesitating to sit next to my father. However, my father got up and invited him to sit next to him and told him that even though the elder’s daughter had married a non-coorg by then, there would not be any retribution!! Of course, the elder profusely apologized for his narrow minded action during my father’s wedding. Kodagu and Kodavas have continued to flourish since then in spite of the fears of such elders who were against a kodava marrying a non-kodava and attending my father’s wedding. So, you guys like “Kodava” and “T.K.”, remember, people like you have been here before and let history be a lesson.
History also teaches us that those cultures which have been open minded and welcoming to other cultures have gotten stronger and flourished. Like a sponge, such cultures absorb the best of others and become much more progressive and grow well. On the other hand, cultures which are narrow-minded and closed, eventually suffocate and die. Let the actions of Talibans elsewhere be a lesson for all of us.
Once again I urge the Kodava Samaj leaders be more proactive and help stop these hooligans and goondas from disturbing solemn marriage ceremonies and other cultural events on the pretext of safeguarding their own ill-conceived version of Kodava culture. Remember, there are many other REAL KODAVAS who think otherwise.
By the way, I like to be "anonymous" because the message should be more important than the messenger!!
I live in the US and am a Kodava. I applaud the moderator of this blog for constantly keeping the information from Kodava community coming. whether it is the wildlife photographer Kiran or C.B. Mutharmma the first woman Ambassador of Independent India , the moderator has introduced us to kodavas hitherto unknown or forgotten.
Go through this blog and you feel good that there is someone who is wholeheardetly ca
ring for the cause of Kodavas. People like this moderator will keep alive the Kodava cause and not those who tarnish it by being narrow minded. So the agrument that he has married a non kodava and therefore he is encouraging the intercaste marraige is not fair. Besides the blog is maintained well and has been speaking for the cause of Kodagu and Kodavas.
I would like to ask what have the hooligans done to protect Kodava? Making someone's elses special day memorable by turning it into a nightmare. That is absoultely unfair. We as Kodavas need to do something constructive like this blog to keep alive our culture not disrupt somebody else's personal decision. There are other ways to protect.
Take the case of artist Trish Taylor Ponappa, a non kodava, a non indian (who was interviewed by Kodagu Community and I knew her only through the blog) who has taken on the task of sketching kodava culture to posterity. So isnt it wonderful that a non kodava documents Kodagu through her intricate art work. So what right do others have in pointing fingers when we have yet to do something constructive for the Kodava cause. It would make better sense to find the achievers among Kodavas and honour them, thereby inspiring the generation to come to excel and keep the Kodava name flying whether they marry outside or not.
My only question to the Moderator of this blog site - Why the comments are deleted, I can see all the comments who opposed the IC marriages were deleted? Just let me know why ?
The protest is only against use of KODAVA customs in inter-caste weddings. Why does anyone want to wed in KODAVA custom when one has no respect to KODAVAME? What do you gain out of it? No one is stopping you from wedding out of community. It is your wish. But do not disrespect our customs. If you want to show the world that you are wedding some body, you can always do so in any other way. No one will object. When you already show your disrespect to KODAVAME by wedding out of community, why do you want KODAVA custom which has its own meaning & value (if you know).
I would also like to Answer this question - I would like to ask what have the hooligans done to protect Kodava?
on weekends I spend my time working towards KODAGU- I am in touch with 3 Organizations and we are doing every bit to save our land, culture and ppl. I dont want to share all those details in this blog site. This is just for your Info.
Dear Kodava,
I am not sure what comments you are talking about. All that were posted do appear on this site asap, there is no delay nor monitoring as long as they are constructive criticism. Below the belt or offensive comments will be deleted without warning. Hope this answers your repeated queries.
Moderator
Dear Moderator,
I am referring to the below blog
"Do you agree with ‘Nanga Kodava’?"
Udiyanda Roshan Somanna, Kademada Darshan Poovanna and few others have commented on the blog. which has been deleted.
Kodava
No idea about that old thread. You can always ask them to comment on this post if they are desperate. And finally, I don’t need to delete comments to prove my point and I don’t have any agenda unlike many others. My focus in on my soil – Kodagu. I know how to run the blog and I have been doing this for the last many years.
Get a life you clown
Sham...I heard middle finger sweets a lot..Is it true?
BTW,why is this Anonymous.Why no names?.As sunil said,People are very scared to show off their names.Good work guys.Keep it going.Our support is always with you.Fire many more and stop the traditions be followed by unwanted people.I had heard of Pimps from other castes.Now even prostitutes are following from other castes!
To all those who want to marry a non coorg..
Its your choice,its your life ,,,
But when u dont need a kodava or kodavathi in your life ,why do you need kodava culture?Why do you need Kodava Attire?Please do not disrespect our culture it means a lot to us.
Hi Viju,
Your simplistic statement reminds me of the "Koopa-Manduka" story (see: http://www.balagokulam.org/kids/stories/koopa.php)
We kodavas are no longer confined to Kodagu any more. Kodavas are spread all over the world. They earn their living in a global work place interacting with co-workers from all over the world. Because of our cosmopolitan outlook resulting from our culture and tradition, it is easier for us to succeed in such an environment. That's why I am proud to be a Kodava. It taught me an "inclusive" way of life.
Being born in such a great culture, it is sad to see that a minority of narrow minded individuals are trying to subvert such a culture without realising the harm they are doing. Falling in love with a person cannot be pre-planned. It happens. Then it is up to the couple to decide how the marriage ceremony and their future life should be planned. If the ceremony adopts the best of both cultures of the couple, it is their desire and the human kind is so much better for it. I strongly feel that the Kodava culture is and should continue to be flexible enough to permit this. That is the strength of our great culture.
This news item may give an opportunity for the misdirected Kodavaame Kodavas in Bangalore to do something constructive.
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/163237/cariappa-park-cries-attention.html
Just a thought!!
Hope it rings a bell.
Thank you Mr. Anon...
I cannot promise you now, but sure we will do something on this issue.
Bariyanda Sunil
Sunil,
Shankar Bidari, Karnatka’s top police official was found wearing kupya-chaley in a wedding in Madikeri recently. What are your thoughts? Is it ok to wear?
Y are you so much worried......
Anyways, one of our kodava would have helped him in wearing kupya-chaley. we ned to first educate him.
Kodava you are displaying your ignorance again.I guess they as group has no guts to interfere with a cop. Pussies!
Hi, After reading the entire blog, m just surprised that we have just fought with each other through words...n no solution, there are better issues than this, first look at the ratio the marriages are breaking...have ever thought,what it is for a girl or a guy to go through this shit, the marital issues are rising at a high rate...making way for girls are boys to look for options outside...why not sit down and resolve this issue...try to resolve the roots cause first...and then start barking like this...please think of this as a priority...or else we wouldnt have any happy couples living together...our great community will strive to grow...LETS HAVE MEASURES To GET THIS RESOLVED.
A True Kodavathi.
Good point, Kodavathi. May be we should change the definition of marriage to make it keep up with the changing times and morals. Bertrand Russell suggested that many years ago in his book: "Marriage and Morals". Food for thought. (Guess, this topic may also become war of eords!!)
Absolutely, either live with what you have or do some changes to system or bring in the system to resolve the issues...since i have gone through a break up...its difficult as a girl to find another person again....guess we as a community should support Men or women of such situation, to make sure they
have enough of moral support.Hope atleast someone listens to this, a breakup of the marriage actually leads to hatredness towards the community the people everything...as we would have dreams to live n survive within our own people..but the day you get betrayed theres no one from this great community to help you..rahter would be happy to push you down...
I guess we need to implement Marriage counsel before and also after marriage. It’s a must, according to me.
With regard to the remarriage we KODAVA, have the option of getting remarriage. This practice is been followed by our ancestors. But we need to have some limit in our expectations. (No offence : I agree Its completely individual decision)
Think outside box people!!
What a person experiences is not to be judged by many with personal assumptions and speculations. When you walk in others shoes you will realize the actual circumstances. Don’t demean people or gossip about it until you have walked in another person’s shoe. A marriage is a two way street with two to tangle. Mismatch occurs among arranged marriages too. Give a helping hand for the oppressed individuals from members of our own community, especially the small minded ones. Give marriage a second chance to those individuals who have experienced a failure in earlier marriage and think that you can make a difference.
absolutely....men or women who have had break up for various reason should be given a chance to live and die being a kodava...rather live life cursing our own fate...hence lets actually think of getting some kind of counsellg sessions...or marriage bureaus who can settle down the issues between two people....for this we need people who dont get carried away by thousands speaking about one couple...rather have their own sound mind...to think from both the couple's point of view...to resolve and keep a watch on their issues...hope there is something like this...or else...the either girl or a guy....end up going walking up to the court...for years together getting nothing out of life...but wasting their entire life in fighting the case...There should be some hope atleast to live a happy life for people like us to live life amongst the kodava clan.
Sunshine..!!!
Kodavathi
'Kodava'.. u said need to educate the person who helped Shankar Bidari in wearing the Kupya.. so can u also educate the Kodava Samaj also to be clear and not give out the wedding halls if they/or u have a problem with such weddings..
Also to answer your questions....
- Why does anyone want to wed in KODAVA custom when one has no respect to KODAVAME?
Ans - Because contrary to ur belief they do respect their culture and traditions and want to celebrate in the culture they were born with.. You should be happy tht they still practice the tradition in an age where many have forgotten their cultures...
The truth is that you have no respect for kodavame because you believe tht such people have committed a crime...when they have just married because of love... u cannot force people to fall in love with only kodavas...
- What do you gain out of it?
They gain the blessings of kodavame for maintaining the traditions and respect from other cultures also..and also happiness from their loved ones and relatives who would have been more than happy to attend a coorgi wedding..
Ignore the bloody self gratifying "Clowns"
If Idiots can fly this could also be an airport.
Below is the post regarding Rhea Subbaiah, daughter of Hockey Karnataka secretary and the former Indian Hockey goal keeper and coach has entered the final list of the prestigious Ford Super model of the World contest.-From Shakthi posted in Kodavvame by Sunil Bariyanda
Followed below are the small minded comments FYI:
by Sunil Bariyanda 3 days ago Rhea Subbaiah, daughter of Hockey Karnataka secretary and the former Indian Hockey goal keeper and coach has entered the final list of the prestigious Ford Super model of the World contest.
The final list of the Ford Supermodel of the World-India contest is out and 20 models are final listed. The grand finale will be held in Gurgaon on Wednesday.
The winner will get an international modeling contract worth $250,000 and the chance to walk the ramp at the Wills Lifestyle India Fashion Week in October. The runners-up will receive contracts worth $150,000 and $100,000 respectively.
The other finalists from the capital are Ankita Sejwal, JyotPriya Sud, Kanika Dev, Ninja Singh, Nitya Duelle, Ruchika Arora and Teesta Rajan.
Six finalists - Anjum Fakih, Krithika Babu, Pallavi Das, Shruti Iyerm, Sudisha Mukherji and Tanya Mehta are from Mumbai, while three - Anubha Ashish, Rhea Subbaiah and Tara Kurian - hail from Bangalore.
Kolkata, Chennai and Pune have only one participant each in Anannya Sarmah, Kavya Shetty and Minora Parashar respectively.
"The next phase of this hunt will witness grooming sessions by experts followed by the grand finale at (Gurgaon's) Leela Kempinski on June 15 that has been supported by renowned personalities from the industry like fashion designer cum choreographer Prasad Bidapa.
They will be groomed by hair and make-up artist Ambika Pillai; fashion choreographer Prasad Bidapa will train them to perfect their walk; while Rahul Dev and Milind Soman will take fitness sessions.
The contest, which in the past discovered models likes Vidisha Pavate and actress Bipasha Basu, is conducted in over 50 countries.
Followed below are the small minded comments FYI:
by Aakash Ganapathy Mukkatira 3 days ago All Politics...There are better looking girls than these for modelling..Problem is,these better looking girls are not interested for this profession!!
by Sunil Bariyanda 3 days ago today after seeing the snap, I feel that. I have wasted 1 sms ....... lol
by madan nanjappa 3
days ago @AKASH: ennatha avashte idh? paapa , sunil oru SMS WASTE!
by Vibin Kaverappa 1 day ago Naak moodira dress ittithengi i luk better den rhea --- wt say guys.
by pramila appaiah 1 day ago whatever it is don't please underestimate people. please appreciate whatever they are and the work should be for good cause that is all. nangada kodavathi ava...
by Kodavaame Pledge to protect 1 day ago guys, what pramila saying is 100% correct. What ever its is we will encourage KODAVA and KODAVATHI.
Anon on June 19: I am not surprised. These silly folks need to grow up really fast for their own good.
Ha ha ha....what the hell's going on...no matter how much we bark...the model whose chosen...has got something in her to be there....n to stand above all...so if u have why not make it there rather than...cribbg about...just coz ur fate doesn't seem to be good...doesnt mean u crib atleast speak good things in life....he he he...
I am stunned about the public display of ignorance regarding the components going in for judging of the model by the members of so called buffoon group.
The breed which evolved from the affairs between the British and the Tribals talk about intercaste marriages. What a joke! Get a life.
REGARDING : Anonymous July 9, 2011 6.54 PM
" The breed which evolved from the affairs between the British and the Tribals talk about intercaste marriages. What a joke! Get a life."
Thank you for sharing your IGNORANCE IN PUBLIC
Posting as an Anon is not a big deal. Come Mr, Joker lets meet and we will give you complete details about our Breed.
To these jobless protesters...one question
Do you actually know our correct origins that u think u are self appointed preservers of our culture??.. there are thousands of stories that our origins are Greeks, Persians, muslims, british etc etc.. God knows what. Our language is itself heavily borrowed from neighbouring languages, Tamil, Malayalam n Kannada. Our 'kupya' chele is also known to be inspired by the Yemenese robe which is known as 'Kufiya', now does that sound familiar???
And all these hypocrites create a scene at weddings?? Using names like kodavame and nellakki for this group is an insult to kodavas... since they have selected this name to preach and preen i hope they work on some other more important issues..its never too late to change..
it's no use crying over spilt milk, so no point in finding the origins / past. Instead lets work towards preserving our culture, tradition and Attire, I hope it make sense.
Protesting in weddings against customs being followed is the latest way of protecting culture??? What a joke!!! if you have so much of love towards the attire why dont you protest against the railways where the waiters wear something like our Kupya??? what is stopping you from doing that? Weddings at kodava samaj are a easy target is it? Exactly like the Taliban!!!
Have you ever seen those waiters in railways? They are not wearing complete KODAVA attire. Until unless they wear complete Kodava attire, how can you prove its Kodava Attire.
Now let me explain you what is complete KODAVA ATTIRE. Kodava Attire will have a Kupya(Majority is Black or white and there were other colors and design’s but not in use now), Chaley(We have a specific design and style), Pechey kathi (Specific design and style) and Mande thuni (Kodava Style).
Now let me tell you, what waiters are wearing in railways - a Kupya kind of dress (also color is different), not a Kodava Chaley (Chaley was used by kings and his officials all over India) and Kodava Chaley is completely different. Also there is no Peche kathi.
So how can you say that they are using KODAVA ATTIRE. There may be possibility, that the dress used by waiters in Golden Chariot as matching to KODAVA Attire upto Some extent, we cannot say that its completely KODAVA ATTIRE.
Kodava
Don't take your role too seriously, no one is pressurizing you to protest the waiters’ dress code or take up the issue with KSTDC. But don’t say the dress doesn’t mock Kodava attire. It does.
let us creat things in the better ment of coorg and kodavs ,like school for kodavas free of cost teaching traditation& culture at the same school and up keep of culture.
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kodava
OK...If Kodavame and Nellaki are telling don't use kodava culture in inter cast marriages, that really does NOT make sense - If your (kodavame & Nellaki)belief is that by stopping these types of practices KODAVA COMMUNITY will be saved, seems very unlikely. Because by the looks of the number of inter-cast marriages happening now eventually there will be no kodava weddings, as a result the culture that we are following will also have stopped (thanks to KODAVAME & NELLAKI). Better to let the weddings happen with the preferred culture of the groom or bride(I think this makes practical sense).
I am a Kodava and personally I don't believe in inter cast marriages (Low thinking u may say, I dont think so). I have a my MANY reasons to believe so - Trust me (Left unjustified at will).
Kodavas are sure from the warrior clan and all that...Kodavas are also peace loving people who like to enjoy themselves given a chance, thats the way it needs to be. Marriages will happen at peoples will, likes and dislikes. There should not be any stupid revolt to not carry out customs etc.
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KA 12, that was a good one.. ha ha. the pressure is getting to them. at the rate that some people in our community are going by disrupting weddings and insulting people and giving lectures to those who do not agree with them it seems like more kodavas will prefer non coorgs.. Wake up, hope you yourself dont be the causes for increase in intercaste weddings by showing the whole community your primitive thoughts...
All of us kodavas do not encourage intercaste marriages, but if it does happen then there is no point in stopping people from following the customs they want to. It is entirely upto the couple and families and relatives how they want to celebrate and they r free to choose which custom or attire they want to follow.if people are against this and think that the customs is only for them to follow, then such people can only be called as self centred with no better work in life who love to poke their noses in others business.Such people should not be encouraged at any cost because they are creating disharmony in our community and being very disrespectful.
A true KODAVA will never hide behind bushes.. y to post as an Anon .... Be bold.
ha ha.. why are u so bothered about anonymity, what will you do knowing each and every anonymous person here? you just cannot take people giving a different opinion is it?? Are you the head of this "nellakki" and "kodavame" group?? Tell it openly if you are a proud, bold kodava..What is your connection to this group?
Just a clown in the circus lol1 Bunch of loosers.
if rhea subbaiah agress to give me a blowjob i'll not agree
hai pippals!!!!!!!!!
i want to say..i is a high classu...u is a low classu..
Suupu
i don know wats the prob with these guys, they shud b sent to afghan, where they can assist their guru....taliban.
Absolute Idiots
I know those Idiots well, they have irrational capacities within their own families and are extremely stupid because of their bias.
Should I expose them and their doings one by one?
when a coorgi guy wants to marry a non coorg girl.. if the girl is willing to marry n follow all the kodava culture,respect it and leave her community..we should encourage it for the betterment of our community..
mr.shashank
if at all some one(boy/girl of other cast) would want to marry a coorgie guy or girl why is it sooo necessary for them to change themselves completely according to your tradition?? let them follow what they want. now you people(kodavas) dont tell me evolved to this stage without the help of other cast men!!
thank You
the below post is for all the opposers of IC marriage
1st u kodavas should stop calling ur self "royal blood" n disgrace other cast!! No 1 is royal hea!! Im a gowda who grew up in a coorgie's house. i hav great reapect 4 their hospatilaty. bt nw wen im committed 2 a coorgie gal a 100 kodavas come against me telling "v belong to the royal blood of aryans" n try 2 pester me.!! nw wt is this!!?? Im nt telling all coorgies r the same. bt most of them r!! think guys this is nt sati sahagamana times. V r in the moders era!!!
If at all you ppl feel ur population is reducing try n keep ur youngsters away 4m IC marriages. Dont come out n show gundaism!
i very well remembr a coorgie telling me "ill belt you 4 being in luv wt a coorgie gal, v belong 2 the royal blood of aryans, u ppl r low" bt as soon as he got 2 noe im a gowda n im a member of my community he just disappeared 4m the scene!!
Im nt against kodavas. i grew up in a Kodavas house. Bt i dont like their opposition towards IC marriages.!! keep things cool n sort it our lik civilized men! Rather than showing up gundaism. if u ppl r sooo interested in showing ur strength i suggest join army n serve our nation!!
Thank You
Gowda
Gowda, first of all I would like to tell you that it is a shame for yourself if you have been brought up by a KODAVA family which narrates your family status. There is no need for us to listen to third person advice as we know what we are and what are values are…. We are proud to be a KODAVA, yes, our blood is a ROYAL BLOOD. Please find one a quote below from Sir Erskine Perry.
Sir Erskine Perry, author and anthropologist, wrote that the KODAVA’s "have no resemblance to any other races of southern India" and that they are "by far the finest race" he has seen in India, in point of independent bearing, good looks, and all the outward signs of well-being.” Herbert Risley was a British ethnographer and colonial administrator who did extensive work on the classification of the various castes in India during the "landmark" census of 1901, described the KODAVAS as the "finest race without any exception in southern India" and considered them to be even superior to the Kashmiri Pundits in respect to skin, color, and status.
Also we don’t have sathi culture, our ancestors were in a practice of remarriage SATHI was u r culture, nor we don’t take DOWRY, If you are a Gowda (l***a) why cant you stop dowry system in your caste, it’s a open challenge to you man. I have a colleague of mine, she is a Gowda and she will be always cursing Gowda Youths for the Dowry systems. She just want to walk out of u r community so she is marrying a malayali now.
And for your information, don’t think all people in Kodagu are kodavas……there is so many sub-castes and we don’t think a pure kodavathi will marry someone like you. Am sure you are fooled and taken for a ride from one of the sub-caste.
Don’t think we are worried for our population being less. We are happy with the present population and we are proud to say that we are the cultured KODAVAS unlike the other sub-castes. Even though if you marry a kodavathi , we care a damn because it simply says……….she is not of the royal blood. We know how to deal with our Population issue; we are not a dumb ass like you. Better you concentrate on the issues you have in your community, instead poking nose on others.
We have no objection on you getting married to the kodavathi as told by you but we will not allow you to follow our kodava tradition or culture in the wedding. The wedding can be done in the gowda style to your fullest content….by the by what is the dowry amount you are getting??? We are forced to ask this because it is mandatory in your tradition.
Also we would like to tell you that it is not “goondaism” but it the passion of our culture….we don’t want any idiots to misuse our culture or tradition. People if they want to get out of our culture & tradition can go and no one will stop, instead we will be happy to say that the VIRUS is deleted permanently.
One more thing we would like to tell you is please do not blabber too much when you do not belong to our KODAVAS. Your blabbering for Gowda community would be of some help. Your involvement for your culture and tradition will be more valued rather than you poking your dirty nose for KODAVA culture and values.
KODAVA
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